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#1 Posted : Thursday, 25 March 2021 11:17:49 PM(UTC)
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Still a while to go on my HQ ute rebuild but I was wondering what colour the steel rims should be. The available new ROH 14" rims are black. I will be putting hubcaps and (probably)trim rings on. I have seen photos with the hubcaps only where the rim is painted body colour. Is this how they left the factory or should they be silver?

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#2 Posted : Friday, 26 March 2021 8:22:28 AM(UTC)
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Is it a Kingswood, or a Belmont? The silver is Wheel Silver Metallic code 522-17216 (have seen it with a 526 paint line but I think 526 is a solid colour wheel paint line). There is another silver wheel paint listed called Silver Flash Metallic 522-11364. Not sure which was used when exactly though, but I'm pretty sure the early HQ silver is the Sliver Flash. There are some HQ's with body colour wheels as well, Kingswood from memory. If you get me the built month/year and colour I'll try and nail it further.
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#3 Posted : Friday, 26 March 2021 8:38:30 AM(UTC)
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Yeah, I've never fully understand the HQ Belmont/Kingswood wheel colour thing.

Many HQs, especially early ones seem to have body coloured wheels, while many are wheel silver.

Maybe it was one of those items which varied from factory to factory.

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#4 Posted : Friday, 26 March 2021 11:59:33 AM(UTC)
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Still a while to go on my HQ ute rebuild but I was wondering what colour the steel rims should be. The available new ROH 14" rims are black. I will be putting hubcaps and (probably)trim rings on. I have seen photos with the hubcaps only where the rim is painted body colour. Is this how they left the factory or should they be silver?


What colour is your ute.
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#5 Posted : Friday, 26 March 2021 12:13:32 PM(UTC)
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HQ Coupe Utility. Belmont. 6-73. Trim 1821-39A. Paint 568-13134. The car is white with a brown interior. I will probably change the paint colour but such details are still up in the air as I am first gathering and restoring parts. It will not be totally original as for example I will put the tri-gauge to rest as I have obtained the Statesman cluster with separate temperature and oil gauges as well as a clock. This will allow me to use a new silver fascia. There were some good HQ seats available but that fell through so I will probably use the HJ seats it came with or use Torana UC seats that I have, both options need to be recovered.
HK1837 you decoded the VIN for me previously. "..The original mechanical configuration was 173HC, M15 3spd manual and 3.55 rear axle with front drums. No mechanical options so no LSD, no discs, no aircon. The BODY plate should be blank in all 3 x locations (ENG, TRANS, RRAXLE)".

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#6 Posted : Friday, 26 March 2021 1:59:23 PM(UTC)
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Almost definitely 222-11364 (silver flash) for that car. It looks like it changed to wheel silver metallic in or after 8/73.

The U21 and Statesman type fasciae were black not silver. I think they may have been flat black painted over silver and the black wore off.

The biggest pain on a HQ commercial is getting retractable belts to work as there is no mount for the reel. It sits half way up the pillar and has a big steel panel that runs up inside the quarter that the not is welded to. HQ’s don’t have this.
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Thanks HK1837 and others. The retractable belts are an important point for me. Any pointers or references for this job. They are a must-have.
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#8 Posted : Friday, 26 March 2021 9:34:46 PM(UTC)
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You’ll have to Engineer it to do it right. I’ve seen people try and fit them down low but they aren’t right. Go look at any HJ to WB commercial and compare to yours and you’ll see what I mean. Even 1974 HJ that didn’t have the retractable belts have the mounting hole. If you can find a ute or van with the quarters off you’ll see the thick steel section I mean, it runs from where the retractable reel bolt on right back through the inner skin.
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#9 Posted : Saturday, 27 March 2021 11:01:44 AM(UTC)
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On the wheel silvers, the documentation is confusing. I think silver flash (originally 222-11364) is a solid colour, and it shouldn’t be a 522 refinish code like the Dulon books show but 526 like all the other solid wheel colours they list. Wheel silver metallic (originally 562-17216) is definitely metallic and the refinish code should be 522.
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Thanks for the detailed information. I will most likely go for the ROH wheels and repaint them. BCI make a much more expensive wheel in satin black or silver, 15” size. It is tempting to go plus 1 but it is something for me to think about as it will be one of the last parts to complete.
On a side note in regards to the instrument fascia, for those that have seen or used them, would you go silver or grey fish scale finish? I am thinking silver to brighten up the cabin.

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#11 Posted : Saturday, 27 March 2021 12:05:21 PM(UTC)
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I’d go 15” for better choice of tyres. But I’d find some 15x6 Pontiac RallyeII. All HQ except cab-chassis were optional with 14x6 Pontiac rims (if not already standard like GTS, SS and Sandman).
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#12 Posted : Saturday, 27 March 2021 3:24:40 PM(UTC)
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There are too many options now, HK1837! CTM sell a similar wheel in alloy that looks good in photos.
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#13 Posted : Saturday, 27 March 2021 4:14:28 PM(UTC)
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I bought these for my HK. Rare Spares Holden centre caps fit.

https://www.wheelvintiqu...series-chevy-ss-396.html

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#14 Posted : Saturday, 27 March 2021 4:33:37 PM(UTC)
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Rey nice. Would look good on an HQ. Good thing that I have time to consider my choices.
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